http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/opinion/09friedman.html?_r=2&th&emc=th

Must of really hit you where it hurts. Your EGO.

I am totally dedicated to working together with open and like minded individuals in a cohesive and respectable manner, in search of cooperative solutions to current and near future problems. Unfortunately, I am not finding that here.

I would rather refrain from further postiings on your blog as I am interested in a more positive, fact finding and intersting blog.

Your right about one thing though. This is your blog and your site.
Have a ball with it!!!

Good luck

Andy or Ed, whatever you choose to go by, I will address your comments one last time and then change the subject as you simply refuse to see another perspective and consistently argue the same points without backing it up with anything but third-hand, dubious evidence. You seem to completely miss the points I make to you and then resort to insults.

You wrote:

“admin,
With all due respect sir;
Your arrogance clearly attributes to your ignorance.”

I’m not sure why you seem to want to insult me, when quite clearly I am not ignorant of the topics you have brought up. I know them very well, but again, you seem averse to understanding anything but your own belief system.

You wrote:

“And because you don’t know what is true you assume everybody else doesn’t either. You even go as far to say that what I see as truth could not possibly be the truth.”

Please reread my comment. I, in no way, said that your beliefs could not possibly be true. I think you read and maybe hear what you want to read and hear. Don’t confuse rational and logical thought with an assumption of ignorance on the part of me or others.

You wrote:

“As a blog administrator, your job is not to ridicule others posts. A good blog will listen to all sides with an open mind and the administrator will reserve judgments. Which goes back to my original post as well as Richards, and Ed’s that the blog is manipulative, biased and flawed and lacks sufficient research on the subject from the very beginning.”

Actually, to make it clear to you, my “job” is anything I want it to be. This is my blog and my site. For you to even comment on what you believe my “job” to be is absolutely ludicrous. If you take my comments as ridicule, because I do not agree with your belief system, then your foundation for belief may be a little shaky. Believe what you want, but don’t tell me or anyone else that you know the “truth”. You don’t. Simple as that.

You wrote:

“You must be living in the jungle not to know that this whole global warming scam is being blown wide open.”

What?? Try replying to debatable subject matter instead of attacking me.

You wrote:

“You have actually started an interesting blog here. I feel it has potential. However, you are obviously new at this and could use some help. I have many suggestions that I will reserve until I am invited to comment.”

LOL. You have been invited to comment all along – try adding something useful now. Please don’t presume that you can help though. Based on your dual persona comments, I really don’t want the kind of help you seem to be offering, but thanks anyway.

You wrote:

“Here I link to a blog that is very interesting and broaches an interesting angle on the subject of conspiracies and fear mongering. I especially found interesting the comments. I hope you have the time to read them as there is no ridiculing or condescending in them. Each one expressing their unique take on the subject.”

Really? Do they all agree with you? Is that why you think it is interesting? I will look at the blog though. I’m pretty certain what I will find, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

You wrote:

“Here is another very important link to a video of Lord Christopher Monkton speaking on climate change in a very clear and simple way separating the scientific truths and facts and exposing the lies. He actually won a huge court case against the movement. It is well worth the time to see this.”

Although, I’m sure from the first article you commented on (which you still have not bothered to rebut), you probably can guess what I feel about Monkton, but I’ll certainly take a look. D you see how easy it is to post your opinion and references without being rude and insulting?

You wrote:

“My comments here are meant to be constructive criticism. Please don’t take them out of context or be offended.”
Clearly your comments are meant to be “constructive” rather than offensive. May I remind you of your statement, “Your arrogance clearly attributes to your ignorance.” And that was a comment made under your Andy persona. Ed was more offensive.

You wrote:

“The reason I have stayed with this blog is to try to add a different perspective and to make it a better blog. If I have done that for you, you are welcome and if I have not. Well, you’re welcome.”

Your comments are welcome, but please refrain from insults in the future.

You state: “I have clearly stated that I don’t know what the truth really is”

And because you don’t know what is true you assume everybody else doesn’t either. You even go as far to say that what I see as truth could not possibly be the truth.

As a blog administrator, your job is not to ridicule others posts. A good blog will listen to all sides with an open mind and the administrator will reserve judgments. Which goes back to my original post as well as Richards, and Ed’s that the blog is manipulative, biased and flawed and lacks sufficient research on the subject from the very beginning.

You must be living in the jungle not to know that this whole global warming scam is being blown wide open.

You have actually started an interesting blog here. I feel it has potential. However, you are obviously new at this and could use some help. I have many suggestions that I will reserve until I am invited to comment.

Here I link to a blog that is very interesting and broaches an interesting angle on the subject of conspiracies and fear mongering. I especially found interesting the comments. I hope you have the time to read them as there is no ridiculing or condescending in them. Each one expressing their unique take on the subject.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread521327/pg1

Here is another very important link to a video of Lord Christopher Monkton speaking on climate change in a very clear and simple way separating the scientific truths and facts and exposing the lies. He actually won a huge court case against the movement. It is well worth the time to see this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zOXmJ4jd-8

My comments here are meant to be constructive criticism. Please don’t take them out of context or be offended. The reason I have stayed with this blog is to try to add a different perspective and to make it a better blog. If I have done that for you, you are welcome and if I have not. Well, you’re welcome.

First off, let me clarify a few things as I see them based on your comments now and in the past. One, a debate isn’t necessarily a contentious discussion. It can also be open discussion from an equal perspective. Either way, it is a great way to gather information that may enlighten all of us. I really haven’t missed any of your points, as I have never said you are wrong, just that your perception appears to be skewed in one direction with a kind of religious faith that I don’t agree with. I have clearly stated that I don’t know what the truth really is — who does? However, you have stated that I am wrong, which is clearly contrary to your statement above, “Who is right??” The problem, from my perspective, is that however people are labelled (since we prefer to categorize everything rather than evaluate shades of gray), the most fervent reactions and postings seem to come from those who have “faith” or “hope”, illustrated in your comment, “I know my ideas are true”, when quite clearly you cannot truly know this. You can have faith or hope that these ideas are true, but you do not truly “know”. Although, I do understand from where you formed these opinions, the danger, as I see it, is succumbing to any body of supposed knowledge completely — accepting something completely on faith in those who you consider smarter than you or possibly more enlightened. Think of all your arguments against the “power structures”, then reverse that thinking and assign it to the conspiracy theories. Are they any different? Do they use the same tactics? Do they purport to know more than you would normally? Do they inspire “religious” or “patriotic” feelings (aka emotional) in you that distract from the understanding of the greater picture? Do they embody fear? I submit to you that a lot of what these theories hold true are plausible and I definitely lean in that direction; however, some are not plausible and risking reducing the respect for the ideas that may be true. When a foundation of truth is present (whether we actually know it to be true, or not), human nature is shown to expound on that and create untruths that most people tend to follow, because the premise in the beginning seemed true. The conclusion tends to end up a far cry from the premise though.

As for your comments on Tesla and others, THAT is what this blog is about! As I have stated before, I am interested in these conspiracy theories to enlighten me further, at the very least, to the extent that I understand other perspectives; at the most, to paint a clearer picture (with all the colors of the rainbow) of the world that we live in.

I submit to you that if Tesla had the cunning to outsmart the power structures in his time, we may live in a very different world today. As for Teslamotors.com, I quote them in the first article posted. They now have a couple models (or more?) and I actually thought about buying their first model. Brilliant vehicle and truly something that would assist in reducing emissions (whether global climate change as a result of these emissions is true or not ). Your links are invaluable to this blog and I thank you for that.

You wrote:
“… a preplanned agenda of taxing the shit out of us with a global watch dog, suspending more human rights and personal libertes,and supressing new technologies while desroying national soverty on a global scale with a global government anwerable to no one.”
I wholly agree. I keep alluding to an article on this subject, so maybe I should just write it! (Soon, my friend, soon.)

If, global warming is a problem, then lets look at the alternatives and solutions. There are many more effective solutions to the problem than the ones being heavyhanded to us. The technologies are there. Nikola Tesla, William Russel, Wilhelm Riech M.D. http://www.orgonomicscience.org/orgoneenergy.html
…and others, showed and demonstrated that energy is all around us.
Tesla did not need to prove all of his over 1700 inventions. He trusted, and had faith in his practical theories. He knew they would work. Today we have a tesla car. Its run on electricity. It goes 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, 125 miles per hour, over 500k on a single charge and fully charges in 3.5 hours.
http://www.teslamotors.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX873z4s9rM
We have batteries that will last nonstop for thousands of hours. They work on silicon and oxygen. (Bolivia wants to start building battaries.)
http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-battery-can-supply-non-stop-power.html

We have the technology for alternative energies with so much potential that it would not only iliminate our need for fossil fuels it would actually clean the air. Cold fussion has shown us how there is more energy in a galon of water than 1000 gallons of oil. The hydrogen on demand, Browns gas or egas. Takes water and through a simple elecrolosis process creates hydrogen.
***(see this)****
http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2005/nov/04/energy.science

You have to look at the real motivation. The end game. Is it fixing the problem through sound solutions or a preplanned agenda of taxing the shit out of us with a global watch dog, suspending more human rights and personal libertes,and supressing new technologies while desroying national soverty on a global scale with a global government anwerable to no one.
The answer to this should be obvious.

I’m not going to debate this issue with you. If you are the one that needs proof, then you go prove it. I dont neeed to prove it. I know my ideas are true. When I feel something is true I have faith and trust in my concious instincts…. and even if its not, just knowing that there exists a possibility of massive manipulation is concerning. Then, when evidence, claims, events or inside whislteblowers imply reasons to question things, it becomes more alarming. Add that to the the idea that if we go on denying that possibility, and it does turn out to be true, it could be like, or worse than the denying of the actual man made global warming.!!”Tragic”!!

If we go on debating this, we are avoiding the real issues and solutions and we are truely missing the boat.
Discussing the”irresponsibility and… gong show reporting” is secumbing to the left right, seperatist paradigm that is so cleverly used to control our thought process through Machiavellian principles. … and quoting something only to say you will reserve your opinion is unneccesary.

Which brings me back to the whole point I am tying to make:
We must together look at the problems, but focus on the solutions. We must do this as awake individuals, and from a diferent perspective using our perifial vision. If we can see through the manipulations together, and together force resposible solutions, we have a chance to successfully confront the enormous challenges facing us in the near future.

I would like try to finish up, this long post here by, quoting and linking, one of my favorite authors and researchers; David Icke, who is so much more articulate and concious than I.

” The whole conspiracy is founded on keeping humanity in a very very low level of perception. Perception about self, perception about the world. This is why we have, the dumbing down of education. This is why we have the controlled, so called information, that comes through the media.
The idea is to keep people in ignorance of anything, that would be a problem to the control system. So, we are kept in ignorance about the nature of reality itself, the nature of life itself, who we are, where we are, what we are doing here. We are kept in ignorance of the true forces that are manipulating behind the people we see in the public arena…”
All these conections have to be kept from people, so that we behave and perceive the world and everything in a way that suits the control system. So any awakening, any opening of the mind to see things that people didn’t see before, is a real big problem for the conspiracy, for the manipulators. And what we are seeing now as more and more people are awakening, is a panic stricten attempt to put the lid on this. To dumb people down…”
” …that becomes obvious and so we’re at this fork in the road, where people have to choose. Are they going to go on being controlled sheep and robots of the control system or are they going to wake up and take the road to freedom. That’s the fork in the road, and thats the choice that people are facing now and will face ever more blatently in the next few years.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs0bODlPRbw

Ironically, controversy is being created consciously and we are being bombarded on so many different levels in order to keep humanity from waking up to our false sense of reality.
Once we open up to the true magnitude of who we are, to our multi dimensional infinite
genius and power, we can no longer be a magicians party trick. Once you know the trick the game is over. You can no longer be fooled.

Waking up from the hipnotic trance or uncovering the secret to the magicians trick is the revolution.

But, thanks Ed for your comment, if sincere, about the blog. It is intended to shed light on environmental issues, not debate only one topic in the conspiracy realm. Albeit, that topic is very interesting.

As to your comment about mass manipulation, I don’t think you’ve read my comments clearly enough to see where we may agree.

If you change your mind and actually debate me, it would be a pleasure to read your arguments supported by references.

Good luck with your blog.
Really!!!

As we come into a new age of enlightenment, I hope you are struck by a clearer view and understanding of the extent of the manipulation of mankind throughout history and its implications.

I’m still waiting for Richard and Andy to debate my points about their comments.